CrossFit Radio Episode 203

By Justin Judkins

In Affiliation, CrossFit, Nutrition, Radio

December 21, 2011

Audio Article

On Episode 203 of CrossFit Radio, host Justin Judkins interviewed Dr. John Berardi, who owns Precision Nutrition. Justin also interviewed Meghan Russell, co-owner of CrossFit JAX. This episode was webcast live at 6 p.m. PDT on Wednesday, Dec. 21, 2011.

The WOW (Workout of the Week) is from Beaverton CrossFit.

Every minute on the minute for 15 minutes:

185-lb. power cleans, 2 reps
70-lb. kettlebell swings, 5 reps
Double-unders for the remainder of each minute
Score is total number of double-unders.

4:50 John Berardi of Precision Nutrition came on the show to talk about intermittent fasting (IF). He began by sharing his background in fitness and nutrition and explained that even though he is a specialist as a masters-level sprinter, he uses CrossFit to supplement his training. IF is a hot topic, and Berardi explained exactly what it is and how it could potentially benefit a CrossFitter. He also detailed his six-month experiment with IF and shared his results. For more info, read Berardi’s article My Experiments With Intermittent Fasting.

33:50 In addition to managing a household and being a mother of two, Meghan Russell owns and runs CrossFit JAX while her husband is on deployment for the U.S. Navy. She described how she and her husband made the decision to transform their small friends-only space to a thriving, successful CrossFit affiliate. Russell talked about developing and fostering the right kind of culture and attitude at the box and described how she conducts their nutrition challenges.

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8 Comments on “CrossFit Radio Episode 203”


wrote …

This guy is awesome! really busts some nutrition myths (like when to refuel after a workout). After his last appearance on CJ, I did some more research. The guy has some cool offerings on his website. *strangely* though, I sent an email to his staff asking if i could participate in Crossfit while receiving his coaching. The answer was: no! (technically, the answer was "yes, but if you want the best results, you should not do Crossfit")


wrote …

Hey Troy - for starters thanks for posting - and thanks for the positive feedback. I really appreciate that.

As far as your email to our customer service team, I spoke with them about this and it looks like there was a simple misunderstanding. So I hope I can clear things up.

For starters, our Lean Eating Coaching Program (the program you emailed about) is a fat loss program that includes, among other things, nutrition coaching and exercise programming.

To date, we've coached over 8,000 clients in the program, collecting rigorous data on everything. (And I mean everything). When crunching the numbers, we've found that those following our exercise recommendations in the program, as outlined, get - far and away - the best fat loss results when compared to those who do their own exercise plans, CrossFit included.

However, that doesn't mean no CF! We do realize that people find their fitness joy in all sorts of places. And that's why we're happy to work with any client despite what workout program they want to follow.

Indeed, we have plenty of clients choosing to follow CF. Others choosing to follow P90X. Others choosing to follow powerlifting training. Others following endurance training. Some choose to do nothing more than a few walks or hikes per week. And so on.

The bottom line is this: we're happy to work with all clients. And our clients can have great success while following CrossFit or any other program that really resonates with them.

Yet, what our customer service team was trying to communicate, is that we can't promise the same sort of fat loss results for those who don't follow our program. Great progress? Absolutely. But guaranteed progress at the same rate those doing the program as designed. We can't promise that.

Does that make sense?


wrote …

Oh yea, one more thing...our program includes some strength training, some interval work and circuits, and some low intensity recovery work. Not unlike what you'd find at a good CF affiliate. So if you're getting that at your local affiliate, then you're all set.

Hope that helps. And if you have any other questions about the program, please let me know. I'm happy to answer them personally!


wrote …

Justin! thx for an awesome and inspiring and very informative show!
One thing i would like to say is: your "S" sounds when you speak is totally a "no rep"! they come out really loud through the speakers and when i wear my headphones the "S-sounds" cuts through bone! Maybe just a minor adjustment on tha mic can fix it :)


wrote …

I was going to add this note during the middle of your interview..Luckily I continued to listen before I posted it.. You addressed this to perfection!! Well done! Here is the post anyways

I would just like to add one note, and John please correct me if I'm wrong.. When you IF, this is still a stress on the body right? So it makes sense NOT to IF if you don't have other lifestyle factors in line - Sleep, Food Quality, Smart Training etc.. I feel that this stuff is great, like you said, in small doses but it needs to be under the right circumstances.. If you're getting 4 hours of sleep, drinking a pot of coffee and your adrenals are screaming at you and then you throw IF into the mix.. this has the potential to crush and ruin you. So my advice would be to get your stuff together before you start playing with this stuff! Great Ebook John and I love listening to guys like you, and other experts in the field. Looking forward to your future articles!


Nick, I made the mistake of having the stressed out client you mentioned above try IF on one particular Sunday. She is a high volume real estate gal with a very stressful job, bad marriage, semi compliant diet, and little sleep. Like you said, it crushed her. The client has had great incremental success by changing one lifestyle habit at a time over the last year I have been working with her. She is down 50 pounds of fat and up 7 pounds of muscle. Post stroke (10 years ago) she is dead lifting 295 and squatting the same. I have used the one day fast that JB talks about with success on other clients. Like he says it is a great teaching tool concerning the psychology of hunger and it let's people understand their body better. But it was a failed experiment for the client I mentioned above under those circumstances.


replied to comment from Paul Southern

Hey, Paul:

Great point about the importance of lifestyle. Ryan Andrews of the PN coaching staff explored it further in this article:

The whole basis of the Precision Nutrition is to take things one step at a time in building good habits that lead to lasting lifestyle change. That applies to Intermittent Fasting --a nd also to other strategies. Surrounding yourself with like-minded people, like those you'd find at a CrossFit affiliate, really helps.


wrote …

Dr. Berardi- thanks for taking the time to research and respond to my specific comment. That's integrity! Yes, your clarification makes sense. Your website materials make for a super compelling argument and if I was to join the program I'd want to go ALL THE WAY. Crossfit has brought me great results over 2 years and I'm sure that would continue with your nutrition guidance. But I wouldn't want to leave something on the table and it sounds like you have a conditioning program better matched for your system than is Crossfit. Fair enough.

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